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Live
Dialogue with David Horowitz -
Founder of the David Horowitz Freedom Center
About
the "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week"
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The session has ended. We would like to thank Mr. David
Horowitz for taking the time to answer your questions, and all
those who participated in the live dialogue.
We apologize for not being able to answer all the questions
due to the guest's time limitation.
Best regards,
Muslim Affairs Team
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Adam - United States
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Hi, Giving the climate of the current situation of Muslims in
America, where muslims are seen as the enemey. I can't help
but think of your organization of using the same tactis as of
Nazi Germany who used words like Facism, Terrorism, Criminals,
etc. to describe the Jewish people, in order to desensitize
them so that "The more we de-humanize them, the easier it will
be to Kill them". I will like to know what you have in store
for the Muslim population in America, and what is your real
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Adam, get real. Jewish terrorists carrying the Torah did not
declare war on Germany, did not fly airplanes into tall
buildings shouting Allahu Akhbar. A religious war, a holy war,
a jihad, has been declared against the West and a death
sentence pronounced on every man woman and child. Read the
fatwas of bin Laden and Zawahiri and the late Zarqawi and wake
up.
What I have in store for the Muslim population in America is
to support those Muslims whose ambition is to join a tolerant,
pluralistic culture in which they can practice their religion
without fear, and to oppose those of them who are seeking,
like the executive director of CAIR Ibrahim Hooper to destroy
our pluralistic society and force all Americans to observe
Islamic law enforced by the state. |
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Hakim - United States
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engineer |
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why the focus on women in the Islamic world? does oriental
mean exotic? is it out of a fantasy? why are you so bent on
equating the veil with oppression? have you ever seen a
picture of the Virgin Mary without a veil? |
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With all due respect, this line of questioning is ridiculous.
What fantasy do you have about 12 year old girls having their
genitals sliced off without anesthetic? |
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Chris - United States
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High School Teacher |
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David - Do you think that Muslims can, in any way,
particularly benefit from reading and examining the thoughts
of Blaise Pascal. If so, how? Thank you.
Chris |
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I'm not sure Pascal is the thinker that would be most helpful.
I think what the Muslim world needs most is to read the
seminal texts of democratic thought, particularly those
relating to the separation of church and state. |
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Mujeeb - United States
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Greetings Mr. Horowitz,
Multiple Questions on certain on issues that you bring up.
1) Given the fact the U.S. is at war with certain Muslims,
isn't holding such an event irresponsible and likely to
inflame tensions rather than build bridges?
2) Why can't you just mind your business? It's not your
business how other countries run their societies? Muslims
don't go around holding "Western Corporate / Immorality
Awareness Weeks" although they disagree with a lot of things
done in the West.
3) "Stoning of Women" for Adultery: I hope you do know that
this punishment applies to both MEN AND Women.
I hope you also know that it is rarely ever carried out due to
high evidentiary standards.
I hope you also know that it was Commanded by Muhammad(saw),
the Prophet of Islam and carried about by his Successors.
If you believe that this punishment is an act of "fascism,"
will you publicly admit that you believe that Muhammad(saw)
the Prophet of Islam and his Successors were a "Fascists?" (Nauzubillah)
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1) The U.S. is at war in behalf of Muslims. It is defending
Muslims. I am supporting America's defense of Muslisms with
these protests.
2)This is another ridiculous question. Why can't you mind
yours?
3)Are you suggesting that I should support stoning if it is
applied equally? In any case, it is not applied equally as you
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Using the term "fascism" in your campaign, you are promoting a
negative connotation about Islam in general, even if you say
that you are not attacking Islam as a religion and that you
are attacking fundamentalist Muslims rather than all Muslims.
Non-Muslim Americans who know nothing about Islam might very
much get affected by your campaign's propaganda and take a
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If I ran a campaign against German fascism or Italian fascism
or the fascist Axis during the Second World War would you say
I was running a campaign against all Italians, all Germans,
all Japanese. If you have a problem with the association of
Islam and terror, you need to take your complaints to Zawahiri,
bin Laden, Nasrallah and other terrorists who justify murder
in the name of Islam.
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marina fiorario - Italy
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First of all, how do you think about it, that an ISLAMIC site
gave you the possibility to talk about your campaign and
express your opinions, even if they are so strongly against
Islam? Do you call this fascism?
Secondly, you say you are not racist and your goal is not to
spread hate. Though, most of your arguments seems to be
directed against all muslims, not just extremists. You are not
the only "thinker" who claims to be against "islamofascism",
while the real goal is to fight against Islam and all Muslims.
Would you say once and clearly that you DON'T WANT to fight
all Muslims but just terrorists? |
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My opinions are not against Islam. They are against Islamo-fascists
-- a big difference which you and other posters don't seem to
comprehend. It doesn't surprise me at all that an Islamic site
would be interested in a campaign to help Muslim women.
Yes, I believe that the vast majority of Muslims are peace-loving
and oppose the terrorists.
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Muslim - United States
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Thank you Mr. Horowitz,
I read something about a guy called Adam Kokesh, he is the one
who is claimed to be behind the notorious George Washington
Uni. posters, do you think that his counter-campaign has been
effective so far in mobilizing awareness against your campaign,
which is seen by most Muslims as offensive? (especially when
we read the names on the speakerslist)
Thank You, |
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I don't believe for a second that most Muslims find our
campaign offensive. Are you saying that you think most Muslims
support terror, the stoning of women, clitorectomies? |
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Karim - United States
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I think this week of awareness is a good idea, it is important
to remind college students of the threats they are facing. but
how do you plan to get people's attention considering there
has not been a single attack on a US city since 9.11.01? |
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There have been more than 9,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11,
many of them directed at Muslims. I think people understand
the threat although most Americans on the left side of the
political spectrum do not. |
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Ashraf palloor -
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No godly religion, whether Islam or Christianity can have a
merger with the fascist ideology even though fascist movements
in Europe were well supported by the church authorities there.
Like dumping western nuclear waste into the third world
countries, western intelligentia is trying to put all the
dirty things they invented into our backyards. Fundamentalism,
anti Semitism, fascism, etc. were not created by any eastern
thinker. I doubt there will be an Al Qaeda like organization,
who authorizes suicide missions, in the muslim world if there
was no CIA funded Jihad in Afghanistan.
We, our religious scholars or ordinary people, never approved
the totalitarian rulers among us, but you are the one
supporting them and protecting them. Can you support us to
have freedom of speech or to get back our lands occupied by
Israel and America peacefully or to get rid of extremists
among us instead of connecting islam with fascim? |
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The fascist movements in Europe were supported by the Muslim
Brotherhood in Egypt and the Ba'ath parties in Syria and Iraq,
and by the Palestinians and their leader Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Fascist ideology -- particularly Jew-hatred -- became
integrated with Islamist ideology. If America had not
supported the Afghanistan resistance, there would have been
two million Muslims slaughtered by the Soviets instead of one
million. The United States has rescued millions of Muslims in
Somalia, Kosovo and Afghanistan. You don't say what your
nationality is but if it is Palestinian, the Israelis have
taken no lands that were yours. All the lands bordering on the
river Jordan were controlled by the Ottoman Turks for 400
years until 1920. All the states created from these lands --
Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Israel were created out of
lands that belonged to the Turks. |
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Abdel Fattah -
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Islamo-Facisim is quite a new word for me. I just want to know
if I really understand what it means.
Does it mean eradicating the inhabitants of the land we call
now North America.
Does it mean chaining Africans together and "shipping" them to
that land.
Does it mean colonizing most of Africa and the Arabian
Peninsula for financial gains.
When someone liberates his land and nationalizes the Suez
Canal, he is called a fascist.
I really cant understand the point. |
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And America haters too are called fascist. |
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Joachim Martillo - United States
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President Hi-Tech Corporation |
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Now that Soviet and Eastern block archives have become more
accessible thanks to the fall of the Soviet Union, more and
more scholars are realizing that ethnic Ashkenazi Soviet
officials took the leading role in planning and executing
Soviet mass murder, ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Is their not a basic similarity in the process of alienization
(making a population aliens in their own country as a prelude
to destroying it) as took place in the Soviet Union and the
process of dispossession and the destruction of the native
Palestinian population as Zionist Ashkenazim planned since the
late 19th century and as the State of Israel carries out right
before our eyes?
In other words are not Soviet Ashkenazi genocidalism and
Zionist Ashkenazi genocidalism essentially the same phenomenon
and an expression of ethnic Ashkenazi extremism, fanaticism
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There are an awful lot of Jew-haters posting to this
discussion. |
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Ahmed -
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Any man with a sense of "good" education knows where and by
whom "fascism" was originated. Thus, I totally agree with
Joseph Sobran, when he said: "Islamofascism is nothing but an
empty propaganda term. And wartime propaganda is usually, if
not always, crafted to produce hysteria, the destruction of
any sense of proportion. Such words, undefined and unmeasured,
are used by people more interested in making us lose our heads
than in keeping their own."
My question to you is: on what basis did you define what Islam
is in order to define the term used by your campaign "Islamofascism"?
Secondly, you consider prohibiting and preaching against
homosexual activities to be a part of the "Islamofascism"
you're fighting, but did you ever put in your mind to campaign
against Jerry Fallwell (the anti-Tinky Winky, the purple,
purse-carrying Teletubby), who once described Tinky Winky to
be: a tool of gay activists who were pushing their "homosexual
agenda" onto America's unsuspecting toddlers and pre-schoolers?
Another idea for your fascism campaign, did you ever consider
Pat Robertson who said: "The feminist agenda is not about
equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family
political movement that encourages women to leave their
husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy
capitalism and become lesbians." ??!
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Islamic radicals want to establish a global Islamic empire,
with a caliphate based in Baghdad, which would enforce Islamic
law through the power of the state. This is a classic
totalitarian ambition. Separation of church and state is the
foundation of any democracy. Not surprisingly the founders of
the Muslim Brotherhood were pro-Nazi and worked with Hitler as
was Haj Amin Al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem and
founder of Palestinian nationalism, as were the Ba'ath parties
in Syria and Iraq. |
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Salma Ramadan - Egypt
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Dear Horowitz,
I noticed that the number of colleges hosting your event ("Islamo-Fascism
Awareness Week") dropped from like 142 universities to about
99 now ..
Would you kindly explain the apparent drop? & do you think
that Muslims are behind it? |
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I believe we have 109 campuses. There have been two campuses
which have dropped out. It's hard to blame these students when
there is such a massive hate campaign organized against them.
No, I do not believe Muslims are behind this campaign. It has
been organized by Islamo-fascists and American leftists (who
act like fascists)and includes the following organizations
which were created by the Muslim Brotherhood -- the
fountainhead of Islamic terrorism: CAIR, MAS, MPAC and the
Muslim Students Association. It is tragic for the Muslim world
that terror-supporting radicals claim to speak in the name of
the Muslim community. But people who care about Muslims,
should not go along with this fiction. |
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Mr. David, Thank you for this opportunity,
The official flyer of the campaign was claimed to be a faked
one (taken out of an old Dutch movie), "Islamo-Fascism" term
is no where but coined by Mr. Bush, several guests that will
be giving lectures are already known to be anti-Islam and anti-Muslim
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Do you think that this campaign would be a successful one, and
will not be racist? |
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The first flyer for this campaign was indeed taken from a
recent Dutch film about the stoning of a Muslim woman who
committed adultery. The point of the film was that the man who
committed adultery with her was given a short prison sentence
whereas she was executed in a horrible manner. Do you approve
of this?
To repeat, the term "Islamo-Fascism" was coined by Algerian
Muslims who were being slaughtered by al-Qaeda radicals. You
can learn more details about this by visiting our website at
www.terrorismawareness.org |
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How much are you paying your speakers for IFAW? How much is
Santorium getting paid for each of his appearances? |
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Less than Michael Moore or Norman Finkelstein or Cindy Sheehan
or than Sami Al-Arian got paid by leftists like you before he
was deported for terrorist activities. |
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mabelkoy - United States
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Mr. Horowitz,
One of the most astonishing thing in American Jewish Life has
been the profound moral coarsening that Israel's Occupation
has had on Jews. Today, you find Jews who had proudly
struggled for the Civil rights openly advocating hostile
racist, anti-arab, anti-muslim bile. Since you are, no doubt,
one of those who shifted to the far-right of American Politics
adopting a hard-line Right Wing Zionism-- How do you Justify
and rationalize to yourself this metamorphotic, pathological
transformation?
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Are you still courting an alliance with Jared Taylor and the
White Supremacists?
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I have been a civil rights activist for fifty years and still
am. I have never advocated anything that could remotely be
called racist, anti-Arab or anti-Muslim.
Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week was designed first of all to
highlight the oppression of Muslims, many of them Arabs under
tyrannical, fascist regimes. The poster for Islamo-Fascism
Awareness Week features a woman being executed by the Taliban
because she was accused of sexual improprieties. Do you
approve of this? Why would you call someone trying to draw
attention to the plight of Muslim women at the hands of
Islamic radicals "anti-Muslim"?
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Steven - United States
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Why are you so keen on spreading hate? I don't understand how
you can justify your actions. You're just as bad as Muslim (and
other) terrorists and hatemongers. What makes you any
different? People like you make me ashamed to be an American
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What are you talking about? I have spread no hate. There is a
massive hate campaign against me and the students who are
organizing Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week. But we have attacked
no individuals and no religious groups despite what left wing
hatemongers have said about us. To repeat, the main theme of
our Week is to protest the oppression of Muslim women,
including the 130 million Muslim girls who have their genitals
sliced off without anesthetic in order to deprive them of
sexual pleasure. Why are you defending mutilators of Muslim
girls? |
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Isn't it possible that there are christo facsists too? Why not
organize a campaign against it too? |
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Yes there are certainly Christian fascists. The term "clerical
fascism" was coined in the 1930s to describe the followers of
Franco. I would regard the Ku Klux Klan as Christian fascists.
The reason I'm not organizing a campaign against them is that
they are universally despised, have no influence and pose no
threat that local police and FBI can't handle. |
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Karima - United States
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While most people understand the term "Islamofascism" as a
word only people with a less than average IQ would use
seriously, there is a body of academic study relating Zionist
philosophy with Nazi ideology dating back to the 1930s.
[George Moss, Jay Harris, Michael Stanislawski. Max Nordau was
a primary Zionist leader whose ideas on Eugenics and national
revival through ethnic purity were studied and accepted by the
Nazis.] Would you feel that a "Zio-Nazi Awareness Week" would
be an appropriate way to address the problem of Jewish racism
in our society and the misunderstandings that some people have
about Israel?
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The term "Islamo-fascism" was coined by Algerian Muslims who
were being slaughtered by Islamic radicals in the 1990s. The
group which now calls itself "Al-Qaeda of the Islamic Maghreb"
murdered between 150,000 and 200,000 Muslims during those
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