Salam Alaikum (Peace be upon you)
Sister Maryam
Peace be upon you Dear Ken
This is now really fun, so sister Maryam,
does not know the Bible very well, and I, the born Muslim, don't understand
the Bible. Only our dear friend Ken knows it all.
I see that this is going to be
fruitless so long as you try to insult me. I know little about Islam, what I
know is what I see.
I said at the end of this email:
I guess I know you now, and I may expect a short
answer from you like that "This is a lie, and the Bible verse are taken out of
context"
I guess I was right
You
just made this sentence longer than I expected.
ANYTHING that contradicts Jesus Christ is a lie. It's that simple. Is it any
difference than a Muslim saying that the Bible has been changed so it can't be
trusted? Do you see the double standard here? The Bible calls it hipocrasy.
Sorry about the 2 links. Here they are:
and the 16 questions are near the end of this
page.
If you want to read more about trinities, go to
table of contents in:
and look at chapter 2.
I remember you tried to explain Trinity, and then
finally said it is hard, just like the
NY Christian Prof. who said that his students had trouble understanding
it.
I am
humble enough to say that I do not understand all that is in my Bible. There
is 2000 years of culture and two languages that separate us. But the things
that I do understand I am firm on. It is very obvious that neither you nor
Maryam understand the Bible as much as she believes. Your comment about Jesus'
followers being little furry animals epitomizes the example. The Bible is
full of metaphors that do not make sense in our culture but if taken in the
context of the contemporary culture most make perfect sense.
If you want to know how Trinity was included in
Christianity, read:
6.9 The Ecumenical Councils of Church in:
Please admit it: Jesus exist, but trinity does
not exist. It was imported from pagan religions by pagan converts to
Christianity.
My daughter will come InShaa Allah this weekend
with my 3 grand daughters to stay with us for 4 weeks. I will Inshaa Allah
read your emails, but my time will be limited.
When you have time, and have no one to save, you
can enjoy reading my 2 books in my website.
Hope you have a good summer, and hot weather.
Enjoy it.
Yes, Jesus does exist, He sits at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. One
day He will be your Judge.
The concept of the Trinity is doctrine. If you understand the meaning of
doctrine you will stop asking me that question.
For Maryam:
Dr. Adel asked
me once for a picture of my family. If you are interested here is our picture.
It is a few years old.
My son is still
laughing. He is the "girl" that is wrapped in the gray jacket on the left. I
live in south
Texas, I am curious where you live.
Ken
Adel Elsaie <adelelsaie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Ken
I am happy to hear you again
I want to say it loud and clear, I am
not offended by your questions, and I gave you already my answers.
It seems that you either have a short
memory, or when you hear an answer that you don't like, you block your mind.
The ultimate pleasure of anyone in
Paradise is to look at the face of Allah. And this will happen to both males
and females. Any other pleasures in Paradise is secondary. A woman by nature
looks only for one man and does not make herself available to any man. But
of course if you see "Christian women" almost naked in TV, and ads., and see
porn movies by "Christian women", you are not going to believe me.
I said the face of Allah, because
Allah is the recognized name of God in the whole
Middle East. If you look at Arabic Bible, you will see Allah instead
of God everywhere.
Yes a woman can ask for divorce if her
husband dissatisfies her. Women in Islam have rights that your wife does not
have. In Islam, wife's money is hers and she can keep ALL her money, and
husband is totally responsible for her. Women in Islam do not have to cook,
clean, .... She only takes care of kids, and her husband. In a typical
western Christian family husband and wife both work, and kids are lost, they
drink, smoke, become violent and drug addict. You know very well the typical
Western family is collapsing.
An Abused Muslim Wife can go to
Islamic, or western court and files for divorce.
You are really very interesting. You
live in your cocoon. Everything in your cocoon (Church) is right and
anything outside your cocoon is wrong and going to hell. Christians not in
your church practice WMD (Weapon of Missionary Deception), but your
missionaries are so good. Probably over 1.5 billion Christians and over 1.5
billion Muslims, are all wrong. What an arrogant idea.
Can I ask you some questions about:
Could you please explain the following verses from the Bible:
Leviticus 12:2
A woman who has a child is unclean and purification rites are required.
Leviticus 15:19
- 22
A woman who is menstruating is unclean. Anyone who touches her is unclean
until the evening. Anything which a woman who is menstruating sits on or
lies on is unclean. Anyone who touches the bed of a woman who is
menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.
Anyone who touches anything which was sat upon by a woman who is
menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.
Leviticus 15:28
- 30
After her flow stops, a woman who was menstruating must count off seven days
before she is considered clean again. On the eighth day, she must present
two birds to the priest for atonement for having had a menstrual discharge
Matthew
19:12,
Men
should consider castration, thereby making themselves eunuchs, for the sake
of the kingdom of heaven.
(Note: During the dark and middle ages, saints castrated themselves by the
thousands in order to become more godly. Even now,
the practice continues in some sects.)
Mathew
19:29, Mark 10:20-30
Abandon
your wife and children for Jesus and he'll give you a big reward.
Mark 10:12,
Luke 16:18
Anyone
who divorces his wife and marries another, commits
adultery, and whoever marries a woman divorced from her husband commits
adultery.
1
Corinthians 14:34-35
Women
are to be silent in church. If they have any questions, they are to ask
their husbands at home. It is a shame for women to speak in church.
1 Timothy 2:9
I also want women
to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold
or pearls or expensive clothes
1 Timothy
2:11-12
Let a
woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or
to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent
2 John
1:9-11
Do not
allow anyone into your house who is not a fellow believer.
According to this statement, no Christian should invite non-Christian to his
home! By the way, Can I come and visit you?????? I welcome Christians in my
home.
You remeber I told you about
Mithra, the Iranian trinity, Sunday, Chrissmas, and many of the
christian traditions are taken from
Mithra. What would you do, if
USA bombs
Iran, and destorys the places of
Mithra, Your God?????
Please make yourself a cup of Coffee, and read:
I guess I kow you now, and I may expect a short answer from you
like that "This is a lie, and the Bible verse are taken out of context"
I have copied this email to an American Muslim Convert Lady. She
knows the Bible Bible better than me. You can also try to save her. She
may send you emails. Her Email address:
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Have a nice day.
Ken wrote:
I am wondering if I offended you by my
questions. Are these questions offensive or do they just not have an
answer?
What do women get in
Paradise? Men get virgins, what do women get?
A man can divorce his wife
if she dissatisfies him, can a woman do the same to a man?
A man can beat his wife if
she disobeys, what recourse does a woman have if her husband is abusive
to her?
From: Adel
Elsaie <adelelsaie@yahoo.com>
Date: Jun 14, 2007 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: Islam, The religion of peace?
To: Ken
There is an article in the Time magazine, about Missionaries under
cover. They were talking about a young white American putting
headscarf, and calling herself a Muslim name, and going to sports
clubs, to attract young Muslims, and try to convert them step by
step.. She know many Islamic words. The article is there in WMD.
Is
this a deception or not? And is this girl a missionary or not? Did she
use WMD or not?
I
am not inventing stories. It is in the media.
Ken wrote:
The Clinton
administration did what it could to undermine
Israel but that certainly has been corrected. We support no
Palestinian fighters or any other country that fights against
Israel.
Christianity is not a
game, we do not play games. There are those who go in the name of
Christ who go for a "vacation trip" under the disguise of planting a
church. Many of the Pentecostal and other charismatic churches do
this. They are a great thorn in our side but occasionally they are
"helpful." Last year a Pentecostal church started to build a church
building in Northeast India (Assam) until they found out that some
of our missionaries (Sovereign Grace Baptist) were already in the
area. They simply left. They left behind thousands of dollars of
materials and a beautifully designed concrete slab. We have a
church there now courtesy of the Church of the Nazarene. Usually
they cause great damage to the trust of the local peoples that can
be difficult to overcome.
I visited your site,
you start with a lie so there is no point in reading further.
'If through my falsehood God's truthfulness abounds to His glory,
why am I still being condemned as a sinner.' (Romans 3:7)
If you take this in
context you will see that Paul is not saying that he is going to use
falsehood to spread Christianity but that those have been telling
lies about him. If you read the passage you will see that Paul is
saying that God is the only source of truth and that every man is a
liar. If, though his "lies," he can glorify God then so be it. His
"lies" being the falsehoods that are being told about him. In other
words he has been called a liar by others and that through his
"lies" God will be glorified. He is being sarcastic. You would see
that if you had read the entire passage. Others would see that if
you would post the entire passage but you will not because Islam is
a religion of lies and half-truths.
I can post
out-of-context passages in the Quran that encourage husbands to beat
their wives. Do you beat your wife when she disobeys you? It is
allowed, and encouraged, in the Quran! If you do not then you are
disobeying the commands of Allah!
Yes I am being
sarcastic, hopefully you will see the point I am trying to make.
From:
Adel Elsaie [mailto:adelelsaie@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:54 PM
To: Ken
Subject: RE: Islam, The religion of peace?
You still don't get it. US support Abbas, the chief of
Fatah.,
Egypt send arms to
Fatah. Think.
About Missionaries to Muslim Countries, I am very familiar with
their games.
I
wrote Weapons of Missionary Deception (WMD) in my website
Trouble with this
reasoning is that the USA doesn't support any of the Palestinian
fighters. Remember, we support Israel.
If they are not
Muslims then who are they? They certainly do all of this "in the
name of Allah." Isn't
Egypt a Muslim country?
You should be happy
(I'm sure you are) that you are not in one of those countries
speaking as you do. You would probably be on the target list if
you say that they are not in Islam.
My church supports
missionaries in Indonesia. Last month six Christian churches were
burned and hundreds of Christians' houses were burned by those who
claim to be Muslim. The pastor of one of the churches and his
family are missing. There are several Muslim groups claiming
credit. Is this the religion of peace?
Christians certainly
do not burn Mosques and the houses of Muslims. We do not convert
at the point of a sword and do not retaliate against those who
leave Christianity.
From: Adel Elsaie [mailto:adelelsaie@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:27 PM
To: Ken
Subject: Re: Islam, The religion of peace?
Definitely this is not Islam, It is struggle for power.
Probably between USA (support
Fatah), and
Iran (support
Hamas). All Muslims Scholars condemn this fight. Try to
find something else. !!!
Last month, "Egypt"
was sending arms to
Fatah !!!!!
I feel sad about this fight, and you send me this
email?????????
Look at the big boys.
Ken wrote:
It seems that
Hamas has ousted the Fattah movement in the Gaza area. They
took over the local government and dragged the Fattah leaders
into the street to shoot them execution style.
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